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Topic: Stiffer penalties for assaults on the Emergency Services

Dickiemint on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 12:47pm

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Assaults on the Emergency Services are on the increase.  One of the reasons is the ludicrously mild sentences passed.  You can be imprisoned for failing to pay your Council Tax or even TV Licence.  But then that's a finance crime which always seems to be treated with a stiff sentence.

You may feel you could sign this petition:
tougher sentences for those who assault our Emergency Services
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Ar Lass on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 13:10pm
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I have signed DM..As one who has worked on A&E and experienced first-hand the abuse and violence, it would be very welcome to all staff I am sure if there was more deterrent than at the present time. I am also aware that the abuse and violence are not just in A&E and not just the hospitals, it is ALL our emergency services.
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SG on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 13:13pm
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As far as assaults on Police Officers go, CPS tend to take the view that by the nature of the job, a certain amount of violence and abuse should be expected. Nice!
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Fossil on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 13:30pm
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I've signed. I witnessed an  attack on the reception staff during a visit to A & E with a friend. The weapon used was a large metal waste bin and it was just lucky that no-one was badly hurt.

I also have a friend in her 40s who works as a paramedic. She's always loved her work and is at the top of her profession. She's now seriously considering giving it up because she and her colleagues have been attacked so many times and, as the mother of a young child, is particularly worried that she may not be able to care for him should she be the victim of a serious attack.
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SG on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 13:41pm
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I really don't understand this urge to attack people who are there to help!
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LouisJadot on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 15:55pm
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It is obvious as to why folk attack those that come to help. It is a form of hitting back at the establishment. just as toilets are trashed in workplaces, It has been going on for since the beginning of time,  Part of Human Behaviour how humans react to situations they don't like. very complex to those that don't read up on it. It is all out there to read Google is your Friend.
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SG on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 16:02pm
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I've never worked anywhere where the toilets were trashed.

I don't see that trying to injure those who are there to help and maybe save your life is hitting back at the establishment either.

I do see it as plain stupid, pig-ignorant and selfish - I don't need to read anything to know that!

Any such abuse should attract an automatic prison sentence of a minimum of 6 months - the whole sentence to be served.
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Hotspur on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 16:42pm
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As far as assaults on Police Officers go, CPS tend to take the view that by the nature of the job, a certain amount of violence and abuse should be expected. Nice!
Afraid that's probably correct, but what I would like to see is police officers being allowed to defend themselves more freely from abuse and violence.
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SG on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 16:47pm
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Afraid that's probably correct, but what I would like to see is police officers being allowed to defend themselves more freely from abuse and violence.

Even when that violence causes injuries necessitating time off work?  Why should a Police Officer get kicked in the face and CPS (who sit in nice safe offices well away from the public) decree that 'well, you have to expect a certain amount of violence towards you'?

There is a specific offence of assault on a Police Officer - so it should be used!

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Pink Geranium on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 16:50pm
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I always assumed the people who do this were probably drunk. It seems so irrational and terrible.
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Hotspur on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 16:51pm
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It is obvious as to why folk attack those that come to help. It is a form of hitting back at the establishment. just as toilets are trashed in workplaces, It has been going on for since the beginning of time,  Part of Human Behaviour how humans react to situations they don't like. very complex to those that don't read up on it. It is all out there to read Google is your Friend.
Not forgetting it may just have something to do with having consumed large amounts of alcohol in which case one is still responsible for their actions and should be treated as so.
If never seen workplace toilets trashed, and I've visited a lot all over the UK and the world
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Hotspur on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 16:56pm
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Even when that violence causes injuries necessitating time off work?  Why should a Police Officer get kicked in the face and CPS (who sit in nice safe offices well away from the public) decree that 'well, you have to expect a certain amount of violence towards you'?

There is a specific offence of assault on a Police Officer - so it should be used!
A question for you, if an officer is kicked in the face is he or she  allowed to kick back and possibly injure the thug without being investigated
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Ar Lass on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 17:10pm
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I always assumed the people who do this were probably drunk. It seems so irrational and terrible.
In my experience a lot are drunk, but a large number are bullies who think the person ..(nurse/doctor) they are having a go at can't retaliate so are easy fodder.
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SG on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 17:32pm
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A question for you, if an officer is kicked in the face is he or she  allowed to kick back and possibly injure the thug without being investigated

Not really, officers are taught Home Office approved methods of restraint and control - and kicking isn't among them!

Having said that if you can justify a non-HO move it's usually ok - for instance I had to slap the face of a woman who had her teeth sunk into my hand because I couldn't make her release me any other way.
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SG on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 17:33pm
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In my experience a lot are drunk, but a large number are bullies who think the person ..(nurse/doctor) they are having a go at can't retaliate so are easy fodder.

Yes, you're right, and in the case of Police Officers it can be people who don't like being told what to do, or what they can't do, or what they shouldn't have done.  :)
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Dickiemint on Thu 21-Sep-2017 | 18:08pm
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It's a big problem, some put down to Supermarkets selling cheap alcohol.  Folk on a night out fill up on the cheap stuff because the pubs and clubs are more expensive.
Society doesn't seem to teach restraint and respect to children anymore.  There seems to be a generation now growing up who don't have a guilt complex!  Thus much stiffer sentences may actually get through to them.
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