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Topic: Harassment, Parliament and the BBC

guest534 on Sun 05-Nov-2017 | 22:50PM
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I cannot imagine why you wonder why when posters have been explaining why all day!
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aron on Sun 05-Nov-2017 | 22:57PM
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Beppy on Sun 05-Nov-2017 | 23:15PM
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She wasn't wailing - she was merely recounting the story.
30 years later? Blimey I could write a book but I'm not going to.
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guest1764 on Sun 05-Nov-2017 | 23:18PM
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You don't understand why she's talking about it now?  Oh dear.
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guest1764 on Sun 05-Nov-2017 | 23:21PM
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30 years later? Blimey I could write a book but I'm not going to.

I thought as much.  You see I've been wondering why some women members have such harsh views and I think it's because they're disillusioned with men.  Some of us expect to be treated well because that's how we've always been treated.  Hearing about harassment, abuse, etc is shocking.  Some women here don't seem at all shocked, they seem to expect bad behaviour from men.

Somebody said earlier, was it you?  that women should count themselves lucky they don't live somewhere where they are raped.  I think that whoever said that has been terribly unlucky in their relationships with men.  That's sad.
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jock364 on Sun 05-Nov-2017 | 23:31PM
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My goodness, so many women are so critical of other women. A hypersensitivity to certain behaviours of others can arise from issues in an earlier age, not even remembered.

As a man, I have learned to be clearly complimentary if that is what I intend and to think twice before I do so.
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Beppy on Mon 06-Nov-2017 | 08:14AM
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I thought as much.  You see I've been wondering why some women members have such harsh views and I think it's because they're disillusioned with men.  Some of us expect to be treated well because that's how we've always been treated.  Hearing about harassment, abuse, etc is shocking.  Some women here don't seem at all shocked, they seem to expect bad behaviour from men.

Somebody said earlier, was it you?  that women should count themselves lucky they don't live somewhere where they are raped.  I think that whoever said that has been terribly unlucky in their relationships with men.  That's sad.

You made me laugh Robyn about the bad behaviour from men and disillusionment. It will be our 54th wedding anniversary in January, does that sound disillusioned to you?

Are you seriously expecting me to be shocked about a backhanded compliment given to a girl 30 years ago and because I'm not you see me as terribly unlucky in relationships? Nonsense.
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SG on Mon 06-Nov-2017 | 09:19AM
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I thought as much.  You see I've been wondering why some women members have such harsh views and I think it's because they're disillusioned with men.  Some of us expect to be treated well because that's how we've always been treated.  Hearing about harassment, abuse, etc is shocking.  Some women here don't seem at all shocked, they seem to expect bad behaviour from men.

Somebody said earlier, was it you?  that women should count themselves lucky they don't live somewhere where they are raped.  I think that whoever said that has been terribly unlucky in their relationships with men.  That's sad.

Hmm - or not.

I'd say I've say I've probably heard a hell of a lot more about harassment and abuse of women, and worse stuff than you can imagine, than most people on here.  That's why I don't think a clumsy but throwaway comment is that shocking.

You clearly haven't been following this and the similar private thread too closely, otherwise you would have seen my post about having always worked in male-dominated environments -

I spent most of my working life in male-dominated environments where banter and risqué comments were commonplace.  In my experience no-one lost respect or felt disrespected because of that.  If anyone, male or female, overstepped the mark - because there were still marks - they were told so there and then and the matter was forgotten. 

I have to say I have on occasions been far more upset by bitchy comments from other women, than anything cheeky I've ever heard from a man.

I wouldn't tolerate what I believe to be bad behaviour from any man but I'd deal with it there and then.

I've never been treated other than exceptionally well, and that goes for men who are friends and family also.

And another reason your theory doesn't work - if some women were disillusioned with men wouldn't they seize every opportunity to criticise them?
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Astoria on Mon 06-Nov-2017 | 09:34AM
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I am inclined to think that the women who are disillusioned with men are the ones who are accusing and reporting men for such trivia as making a rather flattering comment about them looking good in jeans decades ago (still in a trauma? What!) putting an arm around them in public places, making flippant, flirty comments and all this lunging and barging.

The women who love, respect and enjoy men are disillusioned with these women. Not with men.
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Beppy on Mon 06-Nov-2017 | 09:38AM
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I am inclined to think that the women who are disillusioned with men are the ones who are accusing and reporting men for such trivia as making a rather flattering comment about them looking good in jeans decades ago (still in a trauma? What!) putting an arm around them in public places, making flippant, flirty comments and all this lunging and barging.

The women who love, respect and enjoy men are disillusioned with these women. Not with men.

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guest1667 on Mon 06-Nov-2017 | 11:33AM
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I am inclined to think that the women who are disillusioned with men are the ones who are accusing and reporting men for such trivia as making a rather flattering comment about them looking good in jeans decades ago (still in a trauma? What!) putting an arm around them in public places, making flippant, flirty comments and all this lunging and barging.

The women who love, respect and enjoy men are disillusioned with these women. Not with men.

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NZ on Mon 06-Nov-2017 | 11:51AM
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I don't think that  when I was 20 years old that I would have regarded being told by a man when alone in a lift with him that I filled out my jeans well,  as rather flattering.
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Lila1410 on Mon 06-Nov-2017 | 11:55AM
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No, nor would I. Would any 20-year-old?
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SG on Mon 06-Nov-2017 | 11:55AM
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I don't think it would frighten too many either!
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